The problems with my eMac are getting to the point where it is not usable at all. I am going to backup all my data, and try to reinstall the OS and hope that it works. But when I do rebuild the system I will not put on the updates from Apple, I want the system to work, and the updates might prevent it from working again. Wish me luck. I have it coping my /users/mpop directory to an external firewire hard drive.